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Ryzen & Core VID reading

March 29, 2017, 10:40 am
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Hello,

I've just began to tinker with my BIOS settings on my Crosshair VI by putting the following :

Core Ratio : 38
Vcore : 1.35V
RAM : 3200 @ 14-14-14-34
VRAM : 1.35V
Vsoc : 1.00V

System booted fine (haven't tried anything else yet) and I first launched HwInfo and got the following :

http://imgur.com/hilcz18

Core VID reading stay constantly at 1.55V... Is this expected or did I do something wrong ? Thanks in advance.
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Memory Modules section blank

March 29, 2017, 4:27 pm
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HWinfo shuts down the PSU Fan

March 30, 2017, 5:43 am
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I have a Corsair HX1000i PSU, the PSU fan is put to fixed 60% all the time, when every i start HWinfo, HWinfo shuts down the PSU Fan,

I have to every time restart the Corsair Link and restart the PSU fan manually, 

Since i live in a Hot climate country keeping the PSU fan is a MUST.

if HWinfo is reading the PSU fan speed, it should not shut it down every time i start HW info

My system Specs:
i7-6800K, ASUS x99 A-II
32 GB Gskill Trident Z RGB
GTX 1080 Founder edition
Patriot Hellfire 240GB Nvme
Windows 10 Pro 64Bit
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How does HWiNFO app gather info from computers

March 31, 2017, 8:54 am
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Hi everybody,

Might be a stupid question but I was hoping to get a better idea as to how the HWiNFO is gathering it's data for individual counters.  Specifically am curious about the temperature sensors for CPU cores, Ambient, DIMM and I've got something that is called Temp3 with a reading that's lower than all others am not entirely sure what that reading is for specifically and why it's 3-5 degrees below all other components.   And if somebody has any idea how the fan speeds are detected and reported on that would be just incredible!  

Just to clarify, I do understand that there are sensors embedded into motherboards, CPU's, GPU's and hard drives which will provide somewhat accurate readings as to current state/status of the component being monitored i.e. Temperature, spin RPM's, SMART status etc.  What am failing to understand is how this information is being collected from the sensors.  I have a Latitude E5450 and have a few Optiplex 3010/5040/7010/7040's and I've gone through those devices top to bottom and can't find the above data in either WMI nor SNMP or anything else for that matter without actually going into BIOS and reading the info directly from there.  However HWiNFO and a number of applications similar in design seem to be able to pull that data from the computer right through the OS without any issues at all.  Therefore am obviously missing something.  So am trying to understand is how this data is collected and where would I be able to see the data within the OS in instances where I don't have the luxury of being able to install a 3rd party application like HWiNFO to an appliance for monitoring purposes?

Any and all info would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you so much for reading the above.

Regards,
CGC

P.S.  To the development team behind the HWiFNO tool, incredible work, fantastic tool set!  Thank you so much for all your hard work and developing this application and providing to the community!  You've got a supporter here! Wink))
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New Sensor CPU DTS

April 1, 2017, 8:52 pm
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Just noticed a new sensor popped up in my HWiNOF sensors. . . CPU DTS what is this?

Expected hardware this is for SPECS:
CPU: FX 6300
Mobo: MSI Gaming 970 AM3+

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HWINFO 5.46 freezes on startup

April 2, 2017, 1:00 pm
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HWINFO freezes while scanning the drives. It's unkillable & I have to reboot to get rid of it.
I've included the debug file.
I turned off HD Sentinel, with no change.
It works on all of my other computers, some with even more drives.

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Ryzen Core Temp Reading ?

April 3, 2017, 6:35 pm
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Am I right in thinking that we take the CPU (Tdie) reading in HWINFO for 1700X and 1800X Ryzen temps seeing as AMD said they added a 20'c offset for those "X" CPU's as the CPU (Tdie) reading seems to fit in with what I'm seeing with thermal probes etc...?
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HWiNFO32 and HWiNFO64 v5.50 released

April 4, 2017, 1:31 am
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HWiNFO32/64 v5.50 available.

Changes:
  • Added NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti.
  • Fixed reporting of AMD Ryzen memory timings if first memory controller is not active.
  • Fixed occasional erratic sensor readouts on ASUS CROSSHAIR VI HERO.
  • Added reporting of SMU Firmware Revision for AMD Ryzen.
  • Simplified adjusting of sensor item settings via right-click context menu.
  • Added board-level monitoring of CPU current and power on ASUS CROSSHAIR VI and PRIME X370.
  • Enhanced sensor monitoring on GIGABYTE X370 series mainboards.
  • Enhanced sensor monitoring on some ASRock X370 series mainboards.
  • Added support of some later Corsair H110i coolers.
  • Added reporting of AMD AGESA version.
  • Added a new telemetry method to monitor Ryzen CPU+SoC voltage, current and power.
  • Improved support of Intel Skylake-SP.
  • Fixed monitoring of water sensor temperatures on ASUS MAXIMUS IX and CROSSHAIR VI series.
  • Added AMD Radeon RX 570 and RX 580.
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Ryzen CPU Voltage explanation

April 5, 2017, 2:10 am
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Hi all,
i want to know, if possible, some informations about Ryzen CPU Voltage (i have a 1700X on Asus Prime B350 Plus - all settings to AUTO):
1) what's the difference between CPU Core Voltage SVI2 TFN (under Ryzen 1700x tab) and VDDR CPU (under motherboard tab), and which is correct? Shouldn't be the same?
2) i have seen that MAX CPU VID (not Vcore) for Ryzen CPU is high, 1,550V, i think when XFR is operating. I know that VID is the value imprinted by AMD during fabrication process. Am I correct? Obviously this value is not fixed: minimum is 0.400v.
3) I have seen that in the SENSOR TAB - MAXIMUM Voltage (for both values SVI2 TFN and VDDR CPU) max absolute value is 1.544, or sometimes less, for example 1.504...or 1.525 it depends...i know and i think that these are maximum voltages applied when XFR is operating; i'm afraid that this high voltages can damage my CPU, or reduce lifespan...but this is are the default voltages applied by my motherboard....(it's not a problem related to my motherboard, because it seems that these are the voltages that ASUS is applying as default.) When the CPU is in full load, voltages drop to 1.25, 1.28. Temps are good: during Prime 95 stress test with a Noctua NH-D15 Tdie max temp is 53, TcTl max temp is 73. I know that MAX Tctl is 95, so my temps are more than 20° under maximum limit. My Rig is very stable.
4) I have seen that there are differences about voltages for SVI2 TFN and VDDR CPU: for example minimum voltage for SVI2 TFN is 0.892; minimum voltage for VDDR CPU is 0.392; In full load: SVI2 TFN is 1.23-1.25; VDDR CPU 1.28, 1.30. Why there are these differences?


Thanks a lot!
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Help needed to understand the readings

April 5, 2017, 12:42 pm
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Could you please let me know what is meant by "Slot implemented"-No (as highlighted in my snip), does it mean the facility not available or not used? Thanks in anticipation.

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Very high Temperature 4

April 5, 2017, 5:09 pm
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What is Temperature 4? If it's right value then it's in need of some serious cooling!

But I believe it's a bug...but who knows...


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Difference between core thermal throttling and package/ring thermal throttling?

April 6, 2017, 6:57 pm
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Quick background: I'm developing a Rainmeter skin suite called ModernGadgets (GitHub repo here) and I am currently working on implementing thermal throttling detection. When thermal throttling is enabled, it plays a (quite annoying) sound, the graph goes red, and warning text is displayed on the gadget itself.

I have created a UI for configuring HWiNFO IDs, and it would be a pain for the users if they had to enter individual sensor IDs for every core, just for thermal throttling (they already have to do this for core temps). If I were to use the package/ring thermal throttling sensor instead, would that achieve the same thing?

On a related note, could I also use ring clock instead of individual core clocks?

Thanks in advance!
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Show Graph

April 8, 2017, 6:11 am
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The “Show Graph” menu item stopped working for two of my key sensors, Total CPU Usage and CPU Package (temperature). Everything else seems to be working fine. The “Show Graph” option is shown in the menu in normal font – not bold, and not gray. Those sensor graphs have been visible on my monitor and working for more than a year. I have a 3 monitor rig, running Win10-64. I use HWiNFO64 as the background from startup on one of the screens. I normally display the Sensor Status text window and 9 sensor graphs on that display. Recently, a different display died and had to be replaced. During that replacement episode, my “normal” screen setup was obviously disrupted. Now, I can’t find my missing graphs or restart them. I need HWiNFO64 guidance. How can I get my sensors back? I’m addicted to HWiNFO64 data. BTW, I just updated HWiNFO64 to the latest version, V5.50-3130. That didn’t help.
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v5.50 Graph stay on top?

April 11, 2017, 12:33 am
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Hi, 

Big fan here of HWiNFO and new to the forum. 

I updated to version 5.50 today and notice that the pop out graphs (i.e: Total Cpu usage graph) no longer remains on the desktop when minimizing the HWiNFO window. The graph now closes to the tray with the HWiNFO window. Is it possible to have the graph stay on the desktop in the new version?

Also I did not backup any HWiNFO settings before upgrading, but the fact that the graph automatically opened in the new version makes me think settings were saved by HWiNFO? I did not uninstall the old version, I just ran the latest installer...

Will HWiNFO save settings in this fashion?

Cheers.
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HWiNFO32 and HWiNFO64 v5.51-3135 Beta released

April 12, 2017, 1:32 am
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HWiNFO32/64 v5.51-3135 Beta available.

Changes:
  • Enhanced sensor monitoring on some ASRock B350 series mainboards.
  • Added NVIDIA TITAN Xp.
  • Enhanced sensor monitoring on ASUS PRIME A320M-K.
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hwinfo64 crashes due to c++ issue

April 12, 2017, 2:51 am
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Installed HWInfo64
it works with only sensors
It works with summary ticked
It consistently crashes with nothing ticked and comes up with this error

see attachment 1

attachment 2 bug report

clip of .net in installed programs

system win 10 enterprise x64

windows error report log of crash report.wer

I want to use this programs to check if I can use some new hardware

Can you help!!!!!!! Confused

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Extremely high Vcore voltage (4 V) on Asus Prime Z270-K with 7700K

April 12, 2017, 4:51 am
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Yesterday I was doing some OC stress testing my 7700K with Realbench. I'm using AVX offset since my cooling is not (yet, soon getting a better one) enough to handle high multipliers and voltages. Applied a multiplier of 47 and AVX offset 3 with an adaptive voltage of 1.25 V, no offset. In RealBench since it's using AVX the CPU was running on 4.4 GHz @ around 1.152 Vcore, occasionally jumping to 1.6 V. Since it wasn't stable I raised the LLC level from 3 to 4 (or from 4 to 5, can't remember exactly but definetly one of those). IA AD/DC load line is set to 0.01. Pretty much everything is set as Raja@ASUS wrote in the Kaby Lake overclocking guide. Now my Vcore was around 1.6 V with occasional spikes of 1.8 V but still unstable. Under non-AVX load the Vcore was pretty stable at 1.248 V.

Did not want to raise the Vcore above 1.25 V since above it my CPU is reaching 80-85 degrees under RealBench. So I decided to play around with the offset. Lowered the Vcore to 1.215 V and applied an offset voltage of 0.04 V resulting in Total adaptive mode CPU core voltage of 1.255 V. Rebooted, did 15 min RealBench stress test, passed it and the Vcore was 1.248 V stable.

Today I turn on the computer, do some easy stuff like browsing the internet, reading forums. Just out of curiosity I take a look at HWiNFO (with is autostarting at Windows startup and has a polling rate set to 250 ms) and I see Vcore current 0.112 V, min 0 V, max 4.064 V!

I've reported this issue on the Asus ROG forum as well. According to them this is not possible since my CPU would have been fried instantly. They suspect inaccurate sensor readings.

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z270-K
BIOS: 0610 (2017/03/25)
HWiNFO version: v5.50-3130
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 with latest updates

SpeedFan was also running but it had every voltage sensor disabled. Only fan and temperature sensors were enabled.

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Dump file from HWiNFOSharedMemoryViewer.exe

April 12, 2017, 8:57 am
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It would be a nice feature if one could save all the sensor names and IDs (and other info) for a system when running HWiNFOSharedMemoryViewer.exe.
Why? Because then one could use a skin template and a python script (or other text processor) to populate a skin template with IDs for a particular system.
This would go a long way in making it easy to apply a Rainmeter skin that uses HWiNFO to multiple systems or adapt a monitored system to new hardware upgrades "auto-magically" instead of painstakingly by hand.
A sort of Linux- auto-conf-like capability to use one template to deploy on multiple systems for standardization.

I think I could use the SKD to query the system, but I am not a commercial user with access to the SDK (I am an electrical engineer and software developer but cannot justify purchasing the SDK for personal use only) or I'd have already done it.

JSON would be great, but CSV is okay as well.
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incorrect voltage reading EVGA X99 motherboard

April 13, 2017, 5:26 am
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Hello guys,

HWinfo seems to misread most voltage values on my EVGA X99 Micro motherboard.

Here's a screenshot from the EVGA ELEET Tool. Those are the same Voltages shown in the UEFI.
[Image: 5n9emksp.jpg]

These are the sensor readings in HWinfo
[Image: wkelbc8x.jpg]
[Image: iveggjhc.jpg]

As you can see, the +12V is quite wrong, the DIMM voltages are missing and there are many readings non existent in the EVGA tool / UEFI.

Hope you can fix that. I'd be glad to help.

Regards
Sleipnir

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AsRock X99 Extreme4 false vcore reading

April 15, 2017, 6:25 am
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[Image: hwinfo.png.ed67bd7be0b098031d76efda79c480de.png]
When I turn on my PC and I open up HWinfo, voltage starts from 0.5V and it slowly creeps up to 1.7V and then it stays there. (Or if my PC is on for 5 minutes and I open up HWinfo it shows that the Vcore is at 1.7V) I know that this is a bug because there is no way that my air cooler would have been able to handle that and because my CPU is running at stock and because both AsRock's A-tuning software and AIDA64 show that the Vcore is between 0.7V and 0.9V at idle and at 1.02V under load. 
BTW, since my CPU is running at stock shouldn't the Vcore be the same as the VID?
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